Estonian Black Storks Migration 2022-2023 from Birdmap

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sova wrote: September 25th, 2021, 8:44 pm
Yes, that would be really great! :thumbs:
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:hi:
For some reason it seems to me that Sova thinks Pikne is a boy :whistling: I hope Katrin and Pikne will meet!
And in any case I join a group of positive people!
I hope Julge has found his group too! :rolleyes:
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25.09 Birdmap update:

Timmu - 6212 km (+10 km), sent data from his wintering place near Metema in Ethiopia :D
Nurme - 2807 km (+358 km), Nurme is travelling southwards and sent data near Vinohradne in Ukraine :loveshower:

Eedi - 5225 km (+160 km), sent data from his overnight place in Saudi Arabia

Katrin - 1554 km (+35 km), stopover near Cotoroaia in Romania
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26. September

JULGE

No new data this morning
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Good morning to all
Juta, thank you very much .... oh jeeee, Julge, what's going on? Where are you ? :unsure:
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Hello everyone :hi:
Hellem wrote: September 25th, 2021, 11:41 pm25.09 Birdmap update: ... Eedi - 5225 km (+160 km), sent data from his overnight place in Saudi Arabia ...
thx Hellem :wave:


EEDI
previous update - data 24.09: https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 63#p831263

previous data:
24.09.2021, distance 5065 km (+ 350 km)
Taif -city in the Makkah ProvinceSaudi Arabia (above the city - in fly)

new data:
25.09.2021, distance 5225 km (+160 km)
dam area, Bidah Valley, Al Bahah Province, Saudi Arabia

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https://goo.gl/maps/cWm6qTQoBr6bVadj9, image capture Sep 2021

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Good morning, everyone :wave:
juta wrote: September 26th, 2021, 7:25 am
Thank you, Juta
Hopefully there will be new data in the evening. :unsure:
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garina do mar wrote: September 25th, 2021, 8:00 pm... Thanks Solo Very interesting information. So maybe Julge is in a group. And they give a possible explanation for the BS being there.
you're welcome; :nod: interesting information also to me; we don't know about Julge (last photos and infos - alone)
garina do mar wrote: September 25th, 2021, 8:15 pmSolo, I guess you are right. And we can also see that in former years of Lk BS. There are some studies in France about that. And further more, of course when the BS are followed it's easier to know. But many times you don't even need to have them followed: they leave their nests at different times.
:nod: ; there are still very few publicly known data, but the claim that black storks live alone except the nesting period seems to be true (this applies to both adults and young birds after leaving the nest)

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Hellem wrote: September 25th, 2021, 11:41 pm25.09 Birdmap update: ... Nurme - 2807 km (+358 km), Nurme is travelling southwards and sent data near Vinohradne in Ukraine :loveshower: ...
Hellem, thx - I'm very curious where Nurme will spend the winter :wave:
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Good morning everyone :hi:
juta wrote: September 26th, 2021, 7:25 am
Thank you, juta.
JULGE holds us in suspense as always ..... :rolleyes:
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A very far-fetched idea / consideration - can the volcanic dust cause disruptions?

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Wind (yesterday)
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sova wrote: September 26th, 2021, 1:25 pm *****
A very far-fetched idea / consideration - can the volcanic dust cause disruptions?

Volcanic eruption
Hello sova :hi:
Thank you!

I did some research, and theoretically it may indeed happen. The below article says:

“… Radio and telephone communications are extremely vulnerable to disruption during a volcanic ashfall and may become temporarily inoperable in areas affected by ash. …”

Edit: And also this
“ Interference… Large quantities of electrically charged ash can be generated in an eruption column. This charged ash can cause interference to radio waves and render radio and telephone systems inoperative. However, this has been very rarely observed. There are many examples of radio and telephone communications continuing to function around an erupting volcano and in areas receiving ashfalls. …”

https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanic_ash ... adios.html

But I don’t know if there’s currently a lot of volcanic ashfall in France, as a result of the volcanic eruption on the Spanish island of La Palma.
Nevertheless, I read that this eruption has caused a huge amount of ash and smoke, and is emitting up to 11 500 tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2) per day, according to Involcan.

We would have heard of it, I suppose… :puzzled:
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Anne7 wrote: September 26th, 2021, 6:29 pm ...
I did some research, and theoretically it may indeed happen. The below article says:
“… Radio and telephone communications are extremely vulnerable to disruption during a volcanic ashfall and may become temporarily inoperable in areas affected by ash. …”

https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanic_ash ... adios.html

But I don’t know if there’s currently a lot of volcanic ashfall in France, as a result of the volcanic eruption on the Spanish island of La Palma.
...
Thank you Anne ... as I said, far fetched ... :unsure:
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Everyone is waiting with bated breath for hopefully good news.

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JULGE - SEPTEMBER 26th

The data session is expected around 19:14:53 (UTC+3)
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Sorry, no new data...

Last data received by GPRS: 2021-09-25 at 07:14:53 (UTC+3)
Next data session expected: 2021-09-27 at 07:14:53 (UTC+3)

This is worrying
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Birdie with white feathers on head, please let us know you are ok, Julge darling!

Could it be that transmiter somehow failed?
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birdmap update: EEDI Distance: 5229 km, Last data: 26.09.2021

EEDI
previous update - data 25.09 https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 42#p831342

previous data:
25.09.2021, distance 5225 km (+160 km)
dam area, Bidah Valley, Al Bahah Province, Saudi Arabia

new data:
26.09.2021, distance 5229 km (+4 km)
dam area, Bidah Valley, Al Bahah Province, Saudi Arabia

mini triangle trip and back to dam area and ... (to the river? away?)

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the information on the label:
Beedah Valley
"fertile valley that runs penetrating the mountains into the deep desert to the north eastern part of the province.on the banks of the valley palm trees take place with famous nuts sold all over the province."

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https://goo.gl/maps/DTHeDce4n8TU1DNu5 image capture Sep 2021
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Anne7 wrote: September 26th, 2021, 7:14 pm ...
Sorry, no new data...
...
Oh yeah, not so good, but it doesn't have to be bad either.
let's stay optimistic ...
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martak wrote: September 26th, 2021, 7:26 pm Birdie with white feathers on head, please let us know you are ok, Julge darling!

Could it be that transmiter somehow failed?
Yes, it could be so, sometimes it happens.
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Anne7 wrote: September 26th, 2021, 6:29 pm
“ Interference… Large quantities of electrically charged ash can be generated in an eruption column. This charged ash can cause interference to radio waves and render radio and telephone systems inoperative. However, this has been very rarely observed. There are many examples of radio and telephone communications continuing to function around an erupting volcano and in areas receiving ashfalls. …”

https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanic_ash ... adios.html

But I don’t know if there’s currently a lot of volcanic ashfall in France, as a result of the volcanic eruption on the Spanish island of La Palma.
Nevertheless, I read that this eruption has caused a huge amount of ash and smoke, and is emitting up to 11 500 tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2) per day, according to Involcan.

We would have heard of it, I suppose… :puzzled:
Yes, theoretically possible, with a south-west wind. La Palma is the small red dot at bottom left of the pic.
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