Following Karls' Families
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Re: Following Karls' Families
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Thank you, Hellem, for the birdmap data!
BIRDMAP OVERVIEW SEPTEMBER 22
KARL II
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 1952 km, +16 km in 1 day, stopover place, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
• NO NEW birdmap data
UDU
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 2615 km, +4 km in 1 day, stopover. Udu is still near the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds near Bánhalma in Hungary
• NEW data: 22.09.2021, distance 2621 km, +6 km in 1 day, stopover. Udu is still in the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds area near Bánhalma in Hungary
PIKNE
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 2564 km, + 24 km in 1 day, stopover. Pikne flew southwards and sent data near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
• NEW data: 22.09.2021, distance 2568 km, + 4 km in 1 day, stopover. Pikne sent data near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
Good night, everyone
Thank you, Hellem, for the birdmap data!
BIRDMAP OVERVIEW SEPTEMBER 22
KARL II
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 1952 km, +16 km in 1 day, stopover place, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
• NO NEW birdmap data
UDU
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 2615 km, +4 km in 1 day, stopover. Udu is still near the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds near Bánhalma in Hungary
• NEW data: 22.09.2021, distance 2621 km, +6 km in 1 day, stopover. Udu is still in the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds area near Bánhalma in Hungary
PIKNE
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 2564 km, + 24 km in 1 day, stopover. Pikne flew southwards and sent data near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
• NEW data: 22.09.2021, distance 2568 km, + 4 km in 1 day, stopover. Pikne sent data near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
Good night, everyone
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Good morning!
All opinions have been red and thank you all for them!
I think, you have noticed that we continue with tracker maps in time due to members wish. Those who are not interested can just skip it.
Actually problem arose because of Julge´s unpredictable behaviour(on other topic) and we wanted to protect information.
For instance, my last tracker map was viewed almost 300 times, we didn´t know who all those viewers were.
Now I think we overreacted and now is all normal.
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PIKNE
Tracker map 22.09 - 23.09.21 20.26
Total route 1.65 km
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Pikne is enjoying life in a nice place! Why not!
Tracker map 22.09 - 23.09.21 20.26
Total route 1.65 km
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Pikne is enjoying life in a nice place! Why not!
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KARL
Total route 19 km
Tracker map 22.09.21 - 23.09.21 20.39
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Karl is still in the same area in Ukraine
Total route 19 km
Tracker map 22.09.21 - 23.09.21 20.39
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Karl is still in the same area in Ukraine
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UDU
Total route 28.50 km
Tracker map 22.09 - 23.09.21 20.55
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Still in Hungary. Nice triangle!
Total route 28.50 km
Tracker map 22.09 - 23.09.21 20.55
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Still in Hungary. Nice triangle!
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24. September
Good morning to all
Batteries of the transmitter of Pikne, Karl II and Udu are half empty / full
Pikne - just over 40%
Karl II - a little more 60%
Udu - between 50% and 60%
Hopefully the batteries will charge a little more. Who knows where the winters spend (how sunny).
Good morning to all
Batteries of the transmitter of Pikne, Karl II and Udu are half empty / full
Pikne - just over 40%
Karl II - a little more 60%
Udu - between 50% and 60%
Hopefully the batteries will charge a little more. Who knows where the winters spend (how sunny).
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PIKNE
Tracker Map September 24, 2021.
Pikne, have you seen the state of your battery? What have you been doing?
Distance about 5 Km
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Elevation not shown here. Just as well - the information is unreliable
Tracker Map September 24, 2021.
Pikne, have you seen the state of your battery? What have you been doing?
Distance about 5 Km
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Elevation not shown here. Just as well - the information is unreliable
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Thanks Jo
Pikne's temperature at the first three points is very low (probably because of leg dender?)
For Udu, almost exactly the same
Pikne's temperature at the first three points is very low (probably because of leg dender?)
For Udu, almost exactly the same
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UDU
Tracker Map
September 24, 2021
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
This will be the last of the "elevation" maps, unless members really want more of them.
Tracker Map
September 24, 2021
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
This will be the last of the "elevation" maps, unless members really want more of them.
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Yes, so do I but I thought we could try this sort of map. OK, we did that - - -
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24.09 Birdmap update:
Karl II - 1993 km (+41 km in 3 days), stopover place near Oleksandrivka in Ukraine
Pikne - 2585 km (+17 km in 2 days), stopover area, sent data from Romania but near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
Udu - 2659 km (+38 km in 2 days), sent data from his/her stopover place near the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds near Bánhalma in Hungary
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Hello everyone
The altitude information is unreliable.
Altitude = GPS measured altitude above average sea level, in metres. (And thus not, as the altimeters in aeroplanes permanenty do, the exact, real elevation above the ground).
It goes without saying that these altitudes (measured by a satellite and sent by the transmitter) have a considerable margin of error.
Because of this margin of error, we sometimes see a bird flying under water, for many kilometres, or we see birds 'flying' at 0 km/h, while in reality and obviously, they are just standing with both feet firmly on a field.
These 3D images may seem fascinating at first glance, but in fact (in my opinion) they are no more than 'entertainment'.
- they suggest an altitude, but this altitude is often far from correct
- much more than a 2D map, they suggest the trajectory flown. However, also the shown trajectory is not accurate. Only the shown location points (longitude and latitude coordinates) are (more or less, at 20-30 metres accuracy) correct. The straight lines on a map connect those points, but do not represent the actual trajectory flown. (The less location points we get, the more inaccurate the displayed trajectory will be). Birds do not fly such very straight lines, nor do they make razor-sharp turns.
That is why I also prefer the 2D maps. They are much more "correct" and clear.
(As long as everyone realises that a show route represents connected location points)
This is of course just my opinion.
Exactly, Jo!
The altitude information is unreliable.
Altitude = GPS measured altitude above average sea level, in metres. (And thus not, as the altimeters in aeroplanes permanenty do, the exact, real elevation above the ground).
It goes without saying that these altitudes (measured by a satellite and sent by the transmitter) have a considerable margin of error.
Because of this margin of error, we sometimes see a bird flying under water, for many kilometres, or we see birds 'flying' at 0 km/h, while in reality and obviously, they are just standing with both feet firmly on a field.
These 3D images may seem fascinating at first glance, but in fact (in my opinion) they are no more than 'entertainment'.
- they suggest an altitude, but this altitude is often far from correct
- much more than a 2D map, they suggest the trajectory flown. However, also the shown trajectory is not accurate. Only the shown location points (longitude and latitude coordinates) are (more or less, at 20-30 metres accuracy) correct. The straight lines on a map connect those points, but do not represent the actual trajectory flown. (The less location points we get, the more inaccurate the displayed trajectory will be). Birds do not fly such very straight lines, nor do they make razor-sharp turns.
That is why I also prefer the 2D maps. They are much more "correct" and clear.
(As long as everyone realises that a show route represents connected location points)
This is of course just my opinion.
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Many thanks, Hellem, for the new birdmap data!
It's a great help.
BIRDMAP OVERVIEW SEPTEMBER 24
KARL II
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 1952 km, +16 km in 1 day, stopover place, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
• NEW data 24.09.2021, distance 1993 km, +41 km in 3 days, stopover place, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
UDU
• Previous data: 22.09.2021, distance 2621 km, +6 km in 1 day, stopover. Udu is still in the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds area near Bánhalma in Hungary
• NEW data: 24.09.2021, distance 2659 km, +38 km in 2 days, stopover. Udu is still in the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds area, near Bánhalma in Hungary
PIKNE
• Previous data: 22.09.2021, distance 2568 km, +4 km in 1 day, stopover. Pikne sent data near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
• NEW data: 24.09.2021, distance 2585 km, +17 km in 2 days, stopover area. Pikne sent data from Romania but near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
Many thanks, Hellem, for the new birdmap data!
It's a great help.
BIRDMAP OVERVIEW SEPTEMBER 24
KARL II
• Previous data: 21.09.2021, distance 1952 km, +16 km in 1 day, stopover place, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
• NEW data 24.09.2021, distance 1993 km, +41 km in 3 days, stopover place, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
UDU
• Previous data: 22.09.2021, distance 2621 km, +6 km in 1 day, stopover. Udu is still in the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds area near Bánhalma in Hungary
• NEW data: 24.09.2021, distance 2659 km, +38 km in 2 days, stopover. Udu is still in the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds area, near Bánhalma in Hungary
PIKNE
• Previous data: 22.09.2021, distance 2568 km, +4 km in 1 day, stopover. Pikne sent data near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
• NEW data: 24.09.2021, distance 2585 km, +17 km in 2 days, stopover area. Pikne sent data from Romania but near Slobozia Mare in Moldova
“Clearly, animals know more than we think, and think a great deal more than we know.”
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TRACKER MAP
PIKNE -SEPTEMBER 25th
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Today, Pikne apparently didn't know what to do.
S/he changed her/his mind a few times.
Total distance flown: 36.9 km
Battery level: 37%
Pikne is currently where the Prut River flows into the Danube, near Giurgiulești (Moldova), but Pikne is at the Romanian side of the border.
Also Ukraine is nearby. A tri-border point
Giurgiulești is a commune in the Cahul District of Moldova. It is also a border crossing point to Romania, located 10 km (6.2 mi) from Galați.
The locality is in the southernmost point of Moldova, at the confluence of the river Prut with the Danube, on the border with Romania and Ukraine.
wikipedia
Pikne flew back and forth between his/her previous location southwest of Slobozia Mare and the current area near the Danube
Pikne's current wide area:
Giurgiulesti International Free Port. In the distance we see the Danube.
https://goo.gl/maps/3GRauUEnMQj5rDp48
TRACKER MAP
PIKNE -SEPTEMBER 25th
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Today, Pikne apparently didn't know what to do.
S/he changed her/his mind a few times.
Total distance flown: 36.9 km
Battery level: 37%
Pikne is currently where the Prut River flows into the Danube, near Giurgiulești (Moldova), but Pikne is at the Romanian side of the border.
Also Ukraine is nearby. A tri-border point
Giurgiulești is a commune in the Cahul District of Moldova. It is also a border crossing point to Romania, located 10 km (6.2 mi) from Galați.
The locality is in the southernmost point of Moldova, at the confluence of the river Prut with the Danube, on the border with Romania and Ukraine.
wikipedia
Pikne flew back and forth between his/her previous location southwest of Slobozia Mare and the current area near the Danube
Pikne's current wide area:
Giurgiulesti International Free Port. In the distance we see the Danube.
https://goo.gl/maps/3GRauUEnMQj5rDp48
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TRACKER MAP
KARL II -SEPTEMBER 25th
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Karl II is still in the same area at the Perekops'ka Gulf, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
Today, he flew 15.1 km.
Battery level: 69%
Irrigation canals in Oleksandrivka
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... QSsX=h1440
TRACKER MAP
KARL II -SEPTEMBER 25th
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Karl II is still in the same area at the Perekops'ka Gulf, near Oleksandrivka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine
Today, he flew 15.1 km.
Battery level: 69%
Irrigation canals in Oleksandrivka
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... QSsX=h1440
“Clearly, animals know more than we think, and think a great deal more than we know.”
— Irene Pepperberg
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TRACKER MAP
UDU -SEPTEMBER 25th
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Little Udu is still in the same area. Today, s/he was exploring the fields between the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds and Kenderes, in Hungary
Today, Udu flew 25.2 km
Battery level: 65%
The fields near Kenderes (in wintertime)
https://goo.gl/maps/nGZVSY86BmgUKhTv5
TRACKER MAP
UDU -SEPTEMBER 25th
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Little Udu is still in the same area. Today, s/he was exploring the fields between the Sóskúti-halastó fishponds and Kenderes, in Hungary
Today, Udu flew 25.2 km
Battery level: 65%
The fields near Kenderes (in wintertime)
https://goo.gl/maps/nGZVSY86BmgUKhTv5
“Clearly, animals know more than we think, and think a great deal more than we know.”
— Irene Pepperberg
— Irene Pepperberg