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Re: How we began

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i think that my first contact to Looduskalender and the LK forum was in the winter 2008-09. i read in a newspaper about a live camera running in the internet, set up somewhere in Estonia in a feeding place for wild boar, and about a webpage called Looduskalender. i looked up both of those.
first i thought that people watching wild boar eating evening after evening were amusing. after a while i thought that watching the boar was amusing. i didn't realize that i was hooked. :mrgreen:

trying to understand the nature news in Estonian was amusing, too. one particular news clip i remember very well: a white tailed sea eagle sitting on eggs in a snow-covered forest. then a pig parade walked by below the nest. another news article about the WTE which really struck me was the clip where one of the eagle parents woke up under a deep blanket of snow. only its head was above the snow.
i'll try to find links to these videos later... they are deep in the archive. i found this link to the pig parade mms://video.eenet.ee/2009/2009-03-11.asf but i could not open it so i made a clip from the archive video.
here Sulev is sitting on the 1st egg. a heard of about 20 boar parade by.


in the beginning i saw also the Forum-button in the top right corner of LK front page. in those times 'forums' had a somewhat questionable reputation (i read also this in papers; i was sooo naïve and ignorant about these things then, a real 'virgin' in the internet. :blush: ). so i dared not open the forum for a long time... finally i did and saw that this forum was a meeting place of amicable people who were interested in wildlife and animals. i started to read the wild boar forum regularly... then i read that the feeding place would be closed. i thought it would mean closing Looduskalender and everything for forever and then this fun would be over. suddenly i was in a terrible hurry to join the forum. i wanted to thank everybody for the joy and information they had been giving before everything would be over.

i have seen that this has been the same way in which several other members have joined, too (except that, unlike i, they understand that the cameras and the forum will continue). they have enjoyed watching the various cameras and reading the different topics in the forum for a long time before joining. :laugh:

of course i was wrong about the closing of everything. only the pig feeding place and the camera there were closed for the summer. in one of the very last evenings in that spring we were lucky enough to see a few of female boar bringing their little piglets to the feeding ground. the place was swarming with little striped piggies in the setting sun. the ground seemed to be 'boiling' with countless numbers of them. after the pig camera closed for the summer the eagle camera continued, of course, and others started: the black stork, the seal camera, Käsmu etc.

in spring 2010 i started to follow the breeding of Linda and Sulev in a regular way from the very beginning. the camera was new and it was placed next to the nest so that the eagles seemed to be 'sitting on our laps' or at least be within the reach of our arms. we could even see the eyes of the eagles move! (later in the season it was shown that the closeness of the camera was not entirely a good thing...) the scenery over the forest was amazing, too, in the early spring when there weren't leaves in the trees. from that year i have been slipping deeper and deeper in the eagles...

i have also learned so much about other birds and animals, too. some things have been shocking, like learning about the ways in which black storks practice family planning, or very distressing like Cainism in Aquila-eagles' nests. it's always agonizing to see any bird chick in danger. knowing that these sides of life are part of nature does not help much... also my attitude towards films and TV programs about nature has changed a lot. regularly i begin to wonder what has been cut away and how the remaining clips are organized and joined together to make an interesting story, what is true and what is not, what is told and what remains untold. what you see on the live camera is real and true (although there are limitations there, too).

on the positive side the most memorable moments have been seeing a big bird like an eagle laying an egg. :loveshower:
my first time was in the evening of March 21 in 2010:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 775#p63775
laying an egg seems to be hard work, something similar as giving birth to a baby. the eagle females are very tired after laying: they tend to fall asleep after this task. this makes me admire little birds like tits even more: they may lay about 10 eggs in succession, one egg per day, weighing in total about as much as the female herself. that is something! :thumbs:
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Post by ame »

Ploughboy wrote: October 10th, 2018, 8:41 pm Happy 10th anniversary LK Forum :thumbs:


Ospreys Nest Forum (luotio.fi)
thank you Ploughboy!
:laugh:

your forum the Osprey's nest forum will celebrate 4 and half years from now. :thumbs:
https://www.luotio.fi/forum/index.php?s ... 6230604944
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Post by Liz01 »

The forum is an unbelievable source of knowledge about birds. I learned a lot here. And I keep learning.

Thanks to all who made this forum possible. I am proud to be a member.

Happy 10 years anniversary Looduskalender! :loveshower:
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Post by Biker »

it was asked for special memories:

I most like to watch the webcams which are placed in the forests.
But lately i also sometimes watch breeding birds. stop, no usually i begin regularly to watch when the eggshells crack . to watch the breeding business, can be somewhat boring...

A big, for me absolutely unexpected great moment took place on a normal saturday afternoon 25.02.2017.
I peeked to the seal beach, the weather there was splendidly. i spotted a high pregnant Grey Seal, which got a cub.

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https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 63#p512763

then i also catched the first milk meal of that cub


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http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/en/node/1088

this is one special moment of many more i had while watching the great cams in Estonia. :wave:

the pictures are gone, i lost the account of picload, but the links to the videos works
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Post by Agatheb2k »

:loveshower:

Hello everyone!

Happy tenth birthday!

... and Thank you very much for all these discoveries!

My first webcam showed white storks in Poland, it was in 2006. On their forum someone talked about black storks in Estonia.
And that's how I saw storks, then boars and deer in winter, bears in summer, foxes, raccoon dogs, badgers, beavers, red deer, seals, eagles, ospreys, owls, buzzards, herons, fishes, the Karuskose's bridge, Käsmu Bay and its festivals.
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I learned so much about the animal world and also your country, a big thank you!
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I have watched these cameras a lot to forget my difficult professional environment, but since I retired I am in my garden with its various insects, my cat and the birds of the sky, sorry to be less present.
I wish you the best for the next ten years!
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Post by Jo UK »

With many thanks to Juta we now know when our tenth birthday is

November 24th. 2008

is when this forum went public.

Juta, thank you for finding the correct date. I imagine it took a long time scrolling through old posts, to find it!
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Post by laranjeiras »

Happy anniversary!!

I joined when someone told me about the wild boar cam - just before Christmas 2012. I quickly found out about Sulev and Linda's nest and the Flood cam (which I really, really miss!) Since then I have watched various cams, both at home and, when I can, at work.

Thank you everyone who makes this possible! The animal experts, those who contribute to the forum discussions and those who run the cams and forum
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Post by leonia »

Maybe we also should remind forum members of a story that, as I believe, had given a strong impetus to the founding of the Looduskalender Forum: the search for Priidupoeg, the transmittered young black stork, who was lost in the Saudi-Arabian desert.
Thoughts about how to get an idea about his fate after receiving no signals from his transmitter for several days and his last positions far from the usual migration path in the Saudi desert, not only led to intense discussions in the Hancock forum. It also led to a first joint action among the forumists and, ultimately, contacts with Saudi ornithologists found via internet.
Two ornithologists, Mr. Abdullah Alsuhaibany and Dr. Mohamed Shobrak rode several hundred kilometers through the desert with their jeep to the last given GPS-data, just to find the bird. They found the young stork, unfortunately meanwhile no longer alive, near a farm and the farmer told them that he had tried to give water to the bird, but it already had been in vain.
http://www.looduskalender.ee/de/node/1613 and http://www.looduskalender.ee/de/node/1395
However, what this young blackstork created, who like so many birds vanished much too early on the dangerous migration, was an awareness of what the internet may represent for the efforts to save our nature: it connects people with similar Interests all across the world who would never have met in pre-internet times!
And the Looduskalender forum is a very special example of these wonderful connections.
And as for myself: Just because of the joint interest in birds I have been able to gain many new friends through the WWW, and was lucky to meet a lot of them personally in the meantime!
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Wow....how did I get here....it seems like yesterday and sometimes it feels like it's been forever. I first registered to the LK forum in 2012 as IKat, but I lost my password and had to re-register again in 2014 as Kathy 1229. And so here I am and I still love this forum greatly. I first started watching a "cam" when a man who lived in Renton Washington had a pair of osprey nesting at an abandoned saw mill. They built their nest on one of the machinery parts so they had to move their nest to a platform for safety and the man installed a camera so people could watch the little osprey family. They were called the Barbie Mill osprey. They nested for 2 years and then they never returned to nest again. I searched the web and found the Hancock forums and watched a variety of nests there.I watched the eagle and osprey cams. I started watching the Norfolk Eagle nest soon after and followed that nest exclusively until the death of the female eagle. Then I saw a news story one day about a black stork nest with a link to this forum and I've been here ever since. I am still partial to the osprey nests....they are my favorites. I was very lucky to have been watching live when little Nori finally took her first flight. I cried when she left the nest.
I so enjoy being here. Everyone here has been nothing but kind and respectful. If I have a question about something, someone is always willing to help me. I have learned so much about the animals and about the love we all share for nature. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to be here with you all. May we all continue on this journey. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Post by solita20 »

I came to Looduskalender bacause my sister told me about Ospreys Cameras and I became addicted, not just the Ospreys cameras but also Grey Seals'. Even I miss having the nests cameras working in winter, since it's a reminder that Spring is coming and birds also.
My most memorable moment was when the three chicks from Piret and Madis said good bye on the nest, I still have the picture on my computer as a part of the screensaver. They were my first year as a watcher, and for me it was as if a whole new world were open for me.
Happy Birthday to Looduskalender, and thank you very much.
Also, merry Christmas and a happy new year for you all
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Post by visit »

Just dropped in a few days ago found the link by accident in a general forum and cause i'm interessted and engaged in natural topics for a long time i feel quite well here :-)
Toppling over this comment:
becuse we don't know the exact date of the birthday. maybe it is this month, or next
i wondered whether you don't have access to the ACP and database where you could find the information very easy ?

However, i wish all, animals and humans, a good future ! :-)

edit:
Cause of using the forumstyle from Joyce&Luna, somebody must have ftp access and database access.
e.g. one of the newer ones of mine shows the data in the ACP (admin control panel)

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Post by juta »

Visit, look here

viewtopic.php?p=622704#p622704

The date you found is not correct, that day we didn´t have even idea to start the forum.
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Post by visit »

hello juta,
that was a picture of a forum of me - not of yours ! :laugh:
just an example, where it can be seen ;-)
but obviously you found it by hard work and scrolling the posts - usually that wouldn't have been necessary.
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Post by Jo UK »

visit :wave:
Just to settle this matter. Our ACP gives the date as 19 Sep 2008, 21:56. Clearly that is not the date when this forum became public. I think it would have been misleading if we had chosen September 19 as our birthday as no member had been able to post anything at that time.
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hello Jo Uk,
ah, now i understand, you wanted to know your "forum coming out" ! :thumbs:
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visit wrote: May 6th, 2019, 9:41 am hello juta,
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but obviously you found it by hard work and scrolling the posts - usually that wouldn't have been necessary.
Yes, I didn´t notice there was year 2018 not 2008
Don´t worry of my hard work. I had my own memories and knew where to look.
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