Liz01 wrote: ↑August 30th, 2021, 7:46 pm
Rauntz,
Maris Strazds speaks of adult birds, not of parents!
A translation from a foreign language should not be presented as a fact. Errors in the translation are inevitable if no one who speaks this language checks the translation for accuracy. I always make mistakes when translating ... also from Estonian to English
It is a fact that they meet in larger groups. There are countless pictures and videos where you can see it.
So how do you know they don't learn how to fish from adults? Do you have any other evidence? If yes, which?
I have no idea when the leader time starts. Maybe you should ask an ornithologists who has observed it?
And you should be honest and just admit that we only have fragmentary knowledge and nothing else! And certainly not be so arrogant, and explain here that a respected ornithologist is telling nonsense .. Lies that one should not believe.
Liz01, if you read what he spoke then that's totally different what you are saying.
"A person can stack a mountain of fish in a nest, but no single human can "tell" the chicks how to forage for food (which the parents do), "tell" them how to build a nest (which they also do), or "tell" them where to fly to (migrate)."
After migration starts there will be no contact from parents so it can only happen during the period when chicks are flying out of nest before migration.
So, i'm honest and reading what he said and as i said it's easily proven from Karl nest and Jan nest that this is not happening.
All those facts have not happening here, sorry but it's true.
I don't have to have "fragmentary knowledge" just observing like we all.
And what lies ... i'm just stating events what has really happening.
You better show me how parent "A person can stack a mountain of fish in a nest, but no single human can "tell" the chicks how to forage for food (which the parents do), "tell" them how to build a nest (which they also do), or "tell" them where to fly to (migrate)."