Black Stork Nest 2, Jan and Janika, 2022
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Re: Black Stork Nest 2, Jan and Janika, 2022
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The intruder pushes her head and body under Jan's neck
Jan is squeezed against the tree.
The intruder has grabbed his right leg. Do you see where Jan's leg is?
The intruder pushes her head and body under Jan's neck
Jan is squeezed against the tree.
The intruder has grabbed his right leg. Do you see where Jan's leg is?
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The intruder still holds Jan by the leg, and tries to push/pull him out of the nest
Now on the other side of the nest
More pushing and pulling
The intruder still holds Jan by the leg, and tries to push/pull him out of the nest
Now on the other side of the nest
More pushing and pulling
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Did Jan finally launch a counterattack? Did he bite the intruder?
I don't know what exactly Jan has done, but the intruder suddenly lets go of his leg...
and flees to the right…
Sova
I don't know what exactly Jan has done, but the intruder suddenly lets go of his leg...
and flees to the right…
Sova
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Hello everyone
That was a bizarre *attack*. It seemed to me that this strange BS wanted to slip under Jan....strange. And suddenly as he came he flew off again (could it be Janika I?)
Thanks Anne for the pictures
That was a bizarre *attack*. It seemed to me that this strange BS wanted to slip under Jan....strange. And suddenly as he came he flew off again (could it be Janika I?)
Thanks Anne for the pictures
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Anne, thanks for the pictures
I basically just repeated what you wrote earlier Too much oxygen during my tour
Intruder with brownish head. She bit Jan's leg. Suddenly she let go of the leg and flew away
poor Jan! I often have the feeling that someone is close by.
10:24:35 Arrival intruder
I basically just repeated what you wrote earlier Too much oxygen during my tour
Intruder with brownish head. She bit Jan's leg. Suddenly she let go of the leg and flew away
poor Jan! I often have the feeling that someone is close by.
10:24:35 Arrival intruder
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10:57 egg rolling by Jan. He is calm
11:54 aerating the nest bowl and egg rolling
11:55 ps to the right
12:38 aerating the nest bowl
13:23 aerating and egg rolling
11:54 aerating the nest bowl and egg rolling
11:55 ps to the right
12:38 aerating the nest bowl
13:23 aerating and egg rolling
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to all!
The brownish-headed intruder must be Janika from last year. It's a pity she is still alone and homeless.
The brownish-headed intruder must be Janika from last year. It's a pity she is still alone and homeless.
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13:28 short danger
he is clacking with his beak, hissing and stands up. Could be he is not alone
he is clacking with his beak, hissing and stands up. Could be he is not alone
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Hello sova
Yes, that was a strange attack.
Jan hardly defended himself at first. He was just trying not to get thrown out of the nest.
But at 10:28:06 there seems to be a "break point". It looks like Jan is biting the intruder, possibly in the right wing. S/he lets go of Jan's leg and flees.
Jan is clearly on the offensive here.
If the intruder was indeed a female (Janika I ?), this event puts (in my opinion) a question mark on the theory that females only fight females, and males only fight males.
The intruder was offensive and attacked Jan, bit his leg and tried to throw him out of the nest.
Jan initially seemed only defensive, but that changed at a certain moment.
(Possibly he was fed up with the intruder's attempt to bite off his leg. )
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You're welcome, LizLiz01 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2022, 12:24 pm Anne, thanks for the pictures
I basically just repeated what you wrote earlier Too much oxygen during my tour :laugh :
Intruder with brownish head. :puzzled : She bit Jan's leg. Suddenly she let go of the leg and flew away
poor Jan! I often have the feeling that someone is close by.
No problem to repeat it.
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Anne, thanks again for all your work here
In the case of black storks, I often had to correct "facts"!
Kaia has clearly shown that in an emergency it doesn't matter to her whether male or female
In this case here I think it was a female? But honestly, I don't have any proof.
Too bad, too bad, they are all without rings!
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13:36 stream was off..
13:59 stream is back! Jan and eggs are still in the nest
he is doing a healthy ps
then he continues aerating the nest bowl
13:59 stream is back! Jan and eggs are still in the nest
he is doing a healthy ps
then he continues aerating the nest bowl
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Yes, I agree with you, Liz.Liz01 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2022, 2:02 pm In the case of black storks, I often had to correct "facts"!
Kaia has clearly shown that in an emergency it doesn't matter to her whether male or female
In this case here I think it was a female? But honestly, I don't have any proof.
Too bad, too bad, they are all without rings!
Kaia has indeed already clearly shown that she also attacks males when she feels it is necessary. Even her own male. (And so did Kati, years ago.)
I also have a feeling that the intruder here may be a female. But no proof either.
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14:54 Jan is aerating the nest bowl
15:28 Jan is snoozing
15:56
15:57 aerating.. eggs are silent!
six beautiful eggs
15:28 Jan is snoozing
15:56
15:57 aerating.. eggs are silent!
six beautiful eggs
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16:08 there is someone nearby
16:10 calm again?
16:11 now he is relaxed (I think so)
16:17 nothing happens! but he is not alone
16:10 calm again?
16:11 now he is relaxed (I think so)
16:17 nothing happens! but he is not alone
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16:47 Egg rolling
ps (still enough food in the area )
wide spread wings
ps (still enough food in the area )
wide spread wings
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17:02 Jan is preening himself
egg rolling, nest aerating - he turns
17:03 back on eggs
egg rolling, nest aerating - he turns
17:03 back on eggs
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17:30 Janika came home
she settles on the eggs, stands up again
her beak is dirty. it seems dry mud. I hope the water bodies don't dry out! It was less rain the last weeks!
she settles on the eggs, stands up again
her beak is dirty. it seems dry mud. I hope the water bodies don't dry out! It was less rain the last weeks!
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17:47 Jan brings straw...
17:47 out again
17:47 out again