Estonian Black Storks Migration 2024/25
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Re: Estonian Black Storks Migration 2024/25
Hi everyone!
Kuremari has made a lot of progress on her journey across Türkiye, the others haven't changed their location and / or haven't sent new data. Alvar and Nurme remain very, very close to each other.
Birdmap Overview – September 25
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 1561 km (+4 km) Alvar was near Sholud’ky; Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 1755 km (+194 km in 2 days); still the same area
KERGU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 6329 km (distorted by phantom flight to Ankara); Kergu was near Yafit, Israel
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 3836 km (+124 km); Kerli was near Krywonossewe, Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 4234 km (+398 km in 2 days); still the same area
KUREMARI
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 2881 km (+389 km); Kuremari was near Yenikağıl, Türkiye
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 3472 km (+591 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Çengilti, Türkiye
NURME
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 1998 km (+25 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km in 2 days); still the same area
TIMMU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 4404 km (+1678 km in 6 days); Timmu was near İçeriçumra, Türkiye
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 19.09.2024; Distance: 3511 (+3 km); Trauma was near Aşağısevindikli, Türkiye
no new data
WABA
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 2459 km (+9 km); Waba was near Ryabiivka, Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2484 km (+25 km in 2 days); Waba was near Bokyivka, Ukraine
Nurme and Alvar near Sholud'ky, Ukraine:
Kuremari has made a lot of progress on her journey across Türkiye, the others haven't changed their location and / or haven't sent new data. Alvar and Nurme remain very, very close to each other.
Birdmap Overview – September 25
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 1561 km (+4 km) Alvar was near Sholud’ky; Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 1755 km (+194 km in 2 days); still the same area
KERGU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 6329 km (distorted by phantom flight to Ankara); Kergu was near Yafit, Israel
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 3836 km (+124 km); Kerli was near Krywonossewe, Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 4234 km (+398 km in 2 days); still the same area
KUREMARI
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 2881 km (+389 km); Kuremari was near Yenikağıl, Türkiye
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 3472 km (+591 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Çengilti, Türkiye
NURME
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 1998 km (+25 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km in 2 days); still the same area
TIMMU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 4404 km (+1678 km in 6 days); Timmu was near İçeriçumra, Türkiye
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 19.09.2024; Distance: 3511 (+3 km); Trauma was near Aşağısevindikli, Türkiye
no new data
WABA
Previous data: 22.09.2024; Distance: 2459 km (+9 km); Waba was near Ryabiivka, Ukraine
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2484 km (+25 km in 2 days); Waba was near Bokyivka, Ukraine
Nurme and Alvar near Sholud'ky, Ukraine:
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KUREMARI • 25.09.2024
From 24.09.24, 16:05 UTC until 25.09.24, 16:44 UTC
Distance: 321 km
Battery: 88 %
https://www.google.de/maps/d/edit?mid=1 ... sp=sharing
Kuremari-Wonderbird made again about 300 km and was last night in Turkey near the village of Gündogan at the bay of Iskenderun.
https://i.ibb.co/zN4Nz0f/Screenshot-20240926-062147.png
KUREMARI • 25.09.2024
From 24.09.24, 16:05 UTC until 25.09.24, 16:44 UTC
Distance: 321 km
Battery: 88 %
https://www.google.de/maps/d/edit?mid=1 ... sp=sharing
Kuremari-Wonderbird made again about 300 km and was last night in Turkey near the village of Gündogan at the bay of Iskenderun.
https://i.ibb.co/zN4Nz0f/Screenshot-20240926-062147.png
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KUREMARI • 26.09.2024
No news today!
Next data session expected: 2024-09-27 19:53 (UTC+3)
KUREMARI • 26.09.2024
No news today!
Next data session expected: 2024-09-27 19:53 (UTC+3)
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Hi everyone!
Kergu is back, and he is already close to the Sudanese border!
Birdmap Overview – September 26
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 1755 km (+194 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: no new data
KERGU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 6329 km (distorted by phantom flight to Ankara); Kergu was near Yafit, Israel
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt , near the Sudanese border
KERLI
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 4234 km (+398 km in 2 days) Kerli was near Krywonossewe, Ukraine
no new data
KUREMARI
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 3472 km (+591 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Çengilti, Türkiye
New data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3786 km (+314 km); Kuremari was near Gündoğan, Türkiye
NURME
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
no new data
TIMMU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 4404 km (+1678 km in 6 days); Timmu was near İçeriçumra, Türkiye
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 19.09.2024; Distance: 3511 km (+3 km); Trauma was near Aşağısevindikli, Türkiye
New data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3653 km (+142 km in 6 days); Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
WABA
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2484 km (+25 km); Waba was near Bokyivka, Ukraine
no new data
Kergu's whereabouts:
Kergu is back, and he is already close to the Sudanese border!
Birdmap Overview – September 26
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 1755 km (+194 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: no new data
KERGU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 6329 km (distorted by phantom flight to Ankara); Kergu was near Yafit, Israel
New data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt , near the Sudanese border
KERLI
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 4234 km (+398 km in 2 days) Kerli was near Krywonossewe, Ukraine
no new data
KUREMARI
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 3472 km (+591 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Çengilti, Türkiye
New data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3786 km (+314 km); Kuremari was near Gündoğan, Türkiye
NURME
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
no new data
TIMMU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 4404 km (+1678 km in 6 days); Timmu was near İçeriçumra, Türkiye
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 19.09.2024; Distance: 3511 km (+3 km); Trauma was near Aşağısevindikli, Türkiye
New data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3653 km (+142 km in 6 days); Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
WABA
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2484 km (+25 km); Waba was near Bokyivka, Ukraine
no new data
Kergu's whereabouts:
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Hi everyone!
Today's top story: Timmu has sent new data, and is already in Egypt. Not much farther to go for our oldies, Kergu and Timmu! Since the other storks didn't have an eventful day or didn't report, today's map only shows Kergu and Timmu.
Birdmap Overview – September 27
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 1755 km (+194 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 1774 km (+19 km); still the same area
KERGU
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt near the Sudanese border
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 4234 km (+398 km in 2 days); Kerli was near Krywonossewe, Ukraine
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 4331 km (+97 km in 2 days); Kerli was near Rywne, Ukraine
KUREMARI
Previous data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3786 km (+314 km); Kuremari was near Gündoğan, Türkiye
no new data
NURME
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
no new data
TIMMU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 4404 km (+1678 km in 6 days); Timmu was near İçeriçumra, Türkiye
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 6015 km (+1611 km in 6 days); Timmu was in the middle of nowhere, east of Qina, Egypt
TRAUMA
Previous data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3653 km (+142 km in 6 days); Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 3659 km (+6 km); still the same area
WABA
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2484 km (+25 km); Waba was near Bokyivka, Ukraine
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 2500 km (+16 km); Waba was near Vydava, Ukraine
Today's top story: Timmu has sent new data, and is already in Egypt. Not much farther to go for our oldies, Kergu and Timmu! Since the other storks didn't have an eventful day or didn't report, today's map only shows Kergu and Timmu.
Birdmap Overview – September 27
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 1755 km (+194 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 1774 km (+19 km); still the same area
KERGU
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt near the Sudanese border
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 4234 km (+398 km in 2 days); Kerli was near Krywonossewe, Ukraine
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 4331 km (+97 km in 2 days); Kerli was near Rywne, Ukraine
KUREMARI
Previous data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3786 km (+314 km); Kuremari was near Gündoğan, Türkiye
no new data
NURME
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
no new data
TIMMU
Previous data: 21.09.2024; Distance: 4404 km (+1678 km in 6 days); Timmu was near İçeriçumra, Türkiye
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 6015 km (+1611 km in 6 days); Timmu was in the middle of nowhere, east of Qina, Egypt
TRAUMA
Previous data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3653 km (+142 km in 6 days); Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 3659 km (+6 km); still the same area
WABA
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2484 km (+25 km); Waba was near Bokyivka, Ukraine
New data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 2500 km (+16 km); Waba was near Vydava, Ukraine
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KUREMARI • 25./26./27.09.2024
From 25.09._22:06 until 27.09._16:38
Distance: 2684 km
Battery: 89 %
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
After we got no data yesterday, we can see now that Kuremari has crossed the Gulf of Iskenderun in Türkiye and has made it already to Israel and is close to the border to Jordania
The map includes several fake flights - data-Tohuwabohu along the war zones ....
Crossing the Gulf of Iskenderun
Fake flights .....
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KUREMARI • 25./26./27.09.2024
From 25.09._22:06 until 27.09._16:38
Distance: 2684 km
Battery: 89 %
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
After we got no data yesterday, we can see now that Kuremari has crossed the Gulf of Iskenderun in Türkiye and has made it already to Israel and is close to the border to Jordania
The map includes several fake flights - data-Tohuwabohu along the war zones ....
Crossing the Gulf of Iskenderun
Fake flights .....
Nature does nothing in vain (Aristoteles)
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Kuremari chose an area with fish ponds for the moment, will she stay there for some days to fuel up?
She is north of Ma'oz Haim
Have a nice Friday evening everyone
Kuremari chose an area with fish ponds for the moment, will she stay there for some days to fuel up?
She is north of Ma'oz Haim
Have a nice Friday evening everyone
Nature does nothing in vain (Aristoteles)
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Wow, that amount of phantom flights is amazing.
I find it really interesting that our birds' transmitters react so differently in that regard. Kergu only had that phantom flight to Ankara, some have none, Kuremari has a dozen... Weird.
I find it really interesting that our birds' transmitters react so differently in that regard. Kergu only had that phantom flight to Ankara, some have none, Kuremari has a dozen... Weird.
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But on the birdmap 27.09 there aren't fake (phantom) flights by Kuremari
Also Trauma, Kerli, Nurme and Waba sent data today, 27.09
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Thanks everyone!
I think Urmas has removed the fake (phantom) flights from birdmap, as he usually does.
Anyway, I am relieved that Kergu, Timmu and even Kuremari are safe and sound beyond the most dangerous war zones by now. Well done!
Fingers crossed for all of our birds.
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Hi everyone!
Kuremari has reached Israel, not that much news - or none at all - for all the others. Have a nice weekend!
Birdmap Overview – September 28
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 1774 km (+19 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024: Distance: 1804 km (+30 km); still the same area
KERGU
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt near the Sudanese border
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 4331 km (+97 km in 2 days); Kerli was near Rywne, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4354 km (+23 km); still the same area
KUREMARI
Previous data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3786 km (+314 km); Kuremari was near Gündoğan, Türkiye
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4366 km (+580 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Ma’oz Haim, Israel
NURME
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2063 km (+34 km in 3 days); still the same area
TIMMU
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 6015 km (+1611 km in 6 days); Timmu was in the middle of nowhere, east of Qina, Egypt
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 3659 km (+6 km);; Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 3662 km (+3 km); still the same area
WABA
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 2500 km (+16 km); Waba was near Vydava, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2511 km (+11 km); still the same area
Kuremari has reached Israel, not that much news - or none at all - for all the others. Have a nice weekend!
Birdmap Overview – September 28
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 1774 km (+19 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024: Distance: 1804 km (+30 km); still the same area
KERGU
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt near the Sudanese border
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 4331 km (+97 km in 2 days); Kerli was near Rywne, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4354 km (+23 km); still the same area
KUREMARI
Previous data: 25.09.2024; Distance: 3786 km (+314 km); Kuremari was near Gündoğan, Türkiye
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4366 km (+580 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Ma’oz Haim, Israel
NURME
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 2029 km (+31 km); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2063 km (+34 km in 3 days); still the same area
TIMMU
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 6015 km (+1611 km in 6 days); Timmu was in the middle of nowhere, east of Qina, Egypt
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 3659 km (+6 km);; Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 3662 km (+3 km); still the same area
WABA
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 2500 km (+16 km); Waba was near Vydava, Ukraine
New data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2511 km (+11 km); still the same area
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Thank you, Hulbi!
We have seen fake flights to the International Airport of Ankara, to the International Airport of Beirut, and now recently to the Queen Alia International Airport, south of Amman in Jordan.
Some information on the phantom flights to Beirut’s international airport:
Israel fakes GPS locations to deter attacks, but it also throws off planes and ships
BEIRUT — For the past few months, the U.S.-operated Global Positioning System (GPS) has been listing planes, people and even ships hundreds of miles from Lebanon in a surprising place — Beirut's international airport.
It's the result of a practice called GPS "spoofing" — which sends false location signals to satellites that overwhelm the real signals.
The operations, which researchers have traced to Israel, are intended to deter rockets and missiles but are at the same time increasing risks for airline passengers while forcing pilots and ship captains to abandon automated safety systems developed over decades.
"I like to say that spoofing is the new jamming," says Todd Humphreys, a professor of aerospace engineering at the University of Texas at Austin who is an expert on GPS spoofing. "Instead of just jamming the signals and breaking the links with GPS satellites, they're spoon-feeding them false signals."
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/22/12458479 ... s-spoofing
Apparently, GPS spoofing is practised worldwide by several countries.
Thank you, Hulbi!
We have seen fake flights to the International Airport of Ankara, to the International Airport of Beirut, and now recently to the Queen Alia International Airport, south of Amman in Jordan.
Some information on the phantom flights to Beirut’s international airport:
Israel fakes GPS locations to deter attacks, but it also throws off planes and ships
BEIRUT — For the past few months, the U.S.-operated Global Positioning System (GPS) has been listing planes, people and even ships hundreds of miles from Lebanon in a surprising place — Beirut's international airport.
It's the result of a practice called GPS "spoofing" — which sends false location signals to satellites that overwhelm the real signals.
The operations, which researchers have traced to Israel, are intended to deter rockets and missiles but are at the same time increasing risks for airline passengers while forcing pilots and ship captains to abandon automated safety systems developed over decades.
"I like to say that spoofing is the new jamming," says Todd Humphreys, a professor of aerospace engineering at the University of Texas at Austin who is an expert on GPS spoofing. "Instead of just jamming the signals and breaking the links with GPS satellites, they're spoon-feeding them false signals."
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/22/12458479 ... s-spoofing
Apparently, GPS spoofing is practised worldwide by several countries.
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Hi everyone!
Biggest news of the day: Kuremari has been feasting on a beautiful fish farm, and two of our friends have decided to continue their journey, and it seems they did so together. Alvar and Nurme have reached Moldova, starting from the same place in Ukraine, ending at the same place in Moldova, and their flight routes look very close to each other. Amazing!
Birdmap Overview – September 29
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 27.09.2024: Distance: 1804 km (+30 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 1948 km (+144 km); Alvar was near Dobrogea Nouă, Moldova, together with Nurme
KERGU
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt near the Sudanese border
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4354 km (+23 km); Kerli was near Rywne, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 3639 km (It seems like Kerli’s total flight distance has been corrected downwards?); Kerli was near Sekretarka, Ukraine
KUREMARI
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4366 km (+580 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Ma’oz Haim, Israel
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 4369 km (+3 km); still the same area, but in the middle of a wonderful fish pool
NURME
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2063 km (+34 km in 3 days); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 2210 km (+147 km); Nurme was near Dobrogea Nouă, Moldova, together with Alvar
TIMMU
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 6015 km (+1611 km in 6 days); Timmu was in the middle of nowhere, east of Qina, Egypt
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 3662 km (+3 km); Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
no new data
WABA
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2511 km (+11 km); Waba was near Vydava, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 2522 km (+11 km); still the same area
Alvar's and Nurme's flight path:
Alvar and Nurme at their last known spot:
Current map of all storks:
Biggest news of the day: Kuremari has been feasting on a beautiful fish farm, and two of our friends have decided to continue their journey, and it seems they did so together. Alvar and Nurme have reached Moldova, starting from the same place in Ukraine, ending at the same place in Moldova, and their flight routes look very close to each other. Amazing!
Birdmap Overview – September 29
Autumn migration 2024 on Birdmap shows routes and distances flown as of August 15
ALVAR
Previous data: 27.09.2024: Distance: 1804 km (+30 km); Alvar was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 1948 km (+144 km); Alvar was near Dobrogea Nouă, Moldova, together with Nurme
KERGU
Previous data: 24.09.2024; Distance: 6623 km (no comparison to last data because the phantom flight has been removed); Kergu was in the middle of nowhere southeast of Lake Nasser, Egypt near the Sudanese border
no new data
KERLI
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4354 km (+23 km); Kerli was near Rywne, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 3639 km (It seems like Kerli’s total flight distance has been corrected downwards?); Kerli was near Sekretarka, Ukraine
KUREMARI
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 4366 km (+580 km in 2 days); Kuremari was near Ma’oz Haim, Israel
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 4369 km (+3 km); still the same area, but in the middle of a wonderful fish pool
NURME
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2063 km (+34 km in 3 days); Nurme was near Sholud’ky, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 2210 km (+147 km); Nurme was near Dobrogea Nouă, Moldova, together with Alvar
TIMMU
Previous data: 26.09.2024; Distance: 6015 km (+1611 km in 6 days); Timmu was in the middle of nowhere, east of Qina, Egypt
no new data
TRAUMA
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 3662 km (+3 km); Trauma was near Küçükkarakarlı, Türkiye
no new data
WABA
Previous data: 27.09.2024; Distance: 2511 km (+11 km); Waba was near Vydava, Ukraine
New data: 28.09.2024; Distance: 2522 km (+11 km); still the same area
Alvar's and Nurme's flight path:
Alvar and Nurme at their last known spot:
Current map of all storks:
- Anne7
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Hi everyone!
Nurme and Alvar most likely already met in Estonia as well. Both have their territory in Pärnu County.
Funny that they are now hanging out together for a while.
The fishponds north of Neve Eitan - where Kuremari is refuelling - is popular with Black Storks.
In 2022 (early December) Bonus was there too.
See: viewtopic.php?p=883527#p883527
Enjoy fishing, Kuremari!
birdmap 29.09:
© Oscar 4 Travel, Neve Eitan April 2022; https://www.facebook.com/oscar4traveler
© Oscar 4 Travel, Neve Eitan April 2022; https://www.facebook.com/oscar4traveler
Neve Eitan (Hebrew: נְוֵה אֵיתָן, lit. "strong residence") is a kibbutz in the Beit She'an Valley in northern Israel. Located about 1 km east of Beit She'an and 1 km west of Maoz Haim, it is under the jurisdiction of Valley of Springs Regional Council. In 2019 it had a population of 311.
The kibbutz was established on 25 November 1938 by Polish members of the "Akiva" movement as part of the "tower and stockade campaign". Native Israelis joined the settlement in 1952.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neve_Eitan
Maoz Haim (Hebrew: מָעוֹז חַיִּים, lit. "Haim's Fortress") is a kibbutz in Israel. Located adjacent to the Jordan River in the Beit She'an valley and falls under the jurisdiction of Valley of Springs Regional Council. In 2019 it had a population of 469. Aside from agriculture, the kibbutz also has a plastics factory, "Poliraz".
The kibbutz was established in 1937 by immigrants from Poland and Germany and was named after Haim Shturman, a member of the Hagana, who was killed there in 1938.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoz_Haim
Nurme and Alvar most likely already met in Estonia as well. Both have their territory in Pärnu County.
Funny that they are now hanging out together for a while.
The fishponds north of Neve Eitan - where Kuremari is refuelling - is popular with Black Storks.
In 2022 (early December) Bonus was there too.
See: viewtopic.php?p=883527#p883527
Enjoy fishing, Kuremari!
birdmap 29.09:
© Oscar 4 Travel, Neve Eitan April 2022; https://www.facebook.com/oscar4traveler
© Oscar 4 Travel, Neve Eitan April 2022; https://www.facebook.com/oscar4traveler
Neve Eitan (Hebrew: נְוֵה אֵיתָן, lit. "strong residence") is a kibbutz in the Beit She'an Valley in northern Israel. Located about 1 km east of Beit She'an and 1 km west of Maoz Haim, it is under the jurisdiction of Valley of Springs Regional Council. In 2019 it had a population of 311.
The kibbutz was established on 25 November 1938 by Polish members of the "Akiva" movement as part of the "tower and stockade campaign". Native Israelis joined the settlement in 1952.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neve_Eitan
Maoz Haim (Hebrew: מָעוֹז חַיִּים, lit. "Haim's Fortress") is a kibbutz in Israel. Located adjacent to the Jordan River in the Beit She'an valley and falls under the jurisdiction of Valley of Springs Regional Council. In 2019 it had a population of 469. Aside from agriculture, the kibbutz also has a plastics factory, "Poliraz".
The kibbutz was established in 1937 by immigrants from Poland and Germany and was named after Haim Shturman, a member of the Hagana, who was killed there in 1938.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoz_Haim
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KUREMARI
28.09 - 29.09.2024
Distance 978 km
Battery 59 %
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Too many lines
Not good place to stay:
Desert Highway, Amman, Jordaania
qaiairport.com
28.09 - 29.09.2024
Distance 978 km
Battery 59 %
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Too many lines
Not good place to stay:
Desert Highway, Amman, Jordaania
qaiairport.com
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Oh my. Take care, Kuremari!!!
Edit: Could these not be phantom flights? Why should Kuremari fly in a straight line to Amman, which seems a rather ununsual route? And the fact that she's so close to an airport makes me think of Ankara airport? So maybe no need to worry at all?
Also, looking at the last two autumn migrations: No stork has ever flown that far east of the Jordan river. It doesn't really seem plausible to me.
Edit: Could these not be phantom flights? Why should Kuremari fly in a straight line to Amman, which seems a rather ununsual route? And the fact that she's so close to an airport makes me think of Ankara airport? So maybe no need to worry at all?
Also, looking at the last two autumn migrations: No stork has ever flown that far east of the Jordan river. It doesn't really seem plausible to me.
- Anne7
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You are right, Hulbi.
Fortunately, there is no reason to worry about these lines
All these lines (in OrniTrack) back and forth to and from Queen Alia International Airport, south of Amman in Jordan, are ghost flights due to GPS spoofing.
We have been seeing them appear for a few days now (as of 27.09)
I'll prepare a few pictures.
Edit: Here you are.
All the fake flights as of 27.09, until yesterday 29.09 at 16:33 UTC
You are right, Hulbi.
Fortunately, there is no reason to worry about these lines
All these lines (in OrniTrack) back and forth to and from Queen Alia International Airport, south of Amman in Jordan, are ghost flights due to GPS spoofing.
We have been seeing them appear for a few days now (as of 27.09)
I'll prepare a few pictures.
Edit: Here you are.
All the fake flights as of 27.09, until yesterday 29.09 at 16:33 UTC
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Thanks for the reassurance, Anne!
Man, those ghost flights are funny normally, but not when they show so many dangerous spots...
Man, those ghost flights are funny normally, but not when they show so many dangerous spots...
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Hi everyone!
A little spoiler for later on, but I found this to be too beautiful not to post it immediately.
Just have a look at Alvar and Nurme. They're obviously still flying together!
A little spoiler for later on, but I found this to be too beautiful not to post it immediately.
Just have a look at Alvar and Nurme. They're obviously still flying together!
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Kuremari, September 30
2024-09-29, 16:33 UTC - 2024-09-30, 16:35 UTC
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Battery: 68 %
Distance: ? km (The transmission deflections have brought 321 km.)
Most of the transmission points come from here: Fish pool north of Neve Eitan. @Anne7
The distraction caused by the airport continues.
Kuremari, September 30
2024-09-29, 16:33 UTC - 2024-09-30, 16:35 UTC
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid= ... sp=sharing
Battery: 68 %
Distance: ? km (The transmission deflections have brought 321 km.)
Most of the transmission points come from here: Fish pool north of Neve Eitan. @Anne7
The distraction caused by the airport continues.
Freedom!