Estonian LSE (formerly BS) Webcam 2011 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Re: Estonian LSE (formerly BS) Webcam 2011.
Ame I think what the wikipedia article is trying to say is despite differences in types of food sources there seem to be these same cycles. I suppose many food sources could be over eaten to the point of crashing a population so the cycle does not vary according to the food sources of local regions, although I would think if there was a terrible blight in a food source that could cause a crash. But probably in nature, unlike in a farm field, there is always a variety of plants growing.
I think I need to do some more serious research on this issue.
I think I need to do some more serious research on this issue.
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yes. and also the variation of numbers of predators (wolves in the case of snowshoe hare i think) did not explain the variation of hare population in a straightforward way. i suppose these are difficult questions because nature is not simple. there are so many things that can affect other things so it is "web" where everything is linked to every other thing.
i guess these interconnections in animal world are like weather which has turned out to be a chaotic system in the long perpective. in the '70ies it was still believed that there were 7 or so variables which determined the weather and that it would only require enough computing power to solve the equations which link these variables. in the '80ies it was discovered that this is not the case: it's a law of nature that it is actually impossible to predict weather precisely in the long run. the butterfly-effect was used to depict this chaotic feature in the weather: a butterfly hovering its wings in the rainforest in Brazil can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world.
when meteorologists make their calculations more than once with their best models and fastest computers they get different answers every time. --i think that this is what they actually do: they make calculations with different models, compare the results and then decide what kind of weather they predict. the predictions nowadays are actually very good in short perspective, but a week ahead or more it gets more and more uncertain.
i guess these interconnections in animal world are like weather which has turned out to be a chaotic system in the long perpective. in the '70ies it was still believed that there were 7 or so variables which determined the weather and that it would only require enough computing power to solve the equations which link these variables. in the '80ies it was discovered that this is not the case: it's a law of nature that it is actually impossible to predict weather precisely in the long run. the butterfly-effect was used to depict this chaotic feature in the weather: a butterfly hovering its wings in the rainforest in Brazil can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world.
when meteorologists make their calculations more than once with their best models and fastest computers they get different answers every time. --i think that this is what they actually do: they make calculations with different models, compare the results and then decide what kind of weather they predict. the predictions nowadays are actually very good in short perspective, but a week ahead or more it gets more and more uncertain.
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Should not do this at work, but it's a rather slow Friday today and I just found a site with really fantastic photos. I link the one with LSE and BS migration pictures from Israel (no it's not Carsten Rohde), but check out the other galleries as well, there are WTE pictures (fantastic ones) and GSE pictures (though I am not sure if all GSE are really GSE?)
http://www.krumenacker.de/en/lesser_spo ... _Migration
http://www.krumenacker.de/en/lesser_spo ... _Migration
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i opened the tooni-camera from the front page of EENET.EE, just for fun and to my surprise it said on white screen "too many retries etc.". so i was wondering could the camera still be in the forest and would it transmit if it had enough power. maybe..? or did someone at EENET forget to pull the plug out from the tooni-camera on their end?
so i left the camera open with the white picture in the background of my screen and what do you know: at 10.17 i heard a click and then i saw that it had tried to connect! i think i'll leave the VLC-player on for today just to see whether it'll show something.
(probably there will be nothing but wouldn't it be funny to see a glimpse from the forest one more time...)
so i left the camera open with the white picture in the background of my screen and what do you know: at 10.17 i heard a click and then i saw that it had tried to connect! i think i'll leave the VLC-player on for today just to see whether it'll show something.
(probably there will be nothing but wouldn't it be funny to see a glimpse from the forest one more time...)
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at 11.17 the camera clicked again but no luck.
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I don't think that the camera is still out there. They have posted a picture of the nest when they fetched the camera
http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/11516
I guess you are right and somebody forgot to "pull the plug" ...
http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/11516
I guess you are right and somebody forgot to "pull the plug" ...
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oh yes, that's true: i saw the picture then, too, but i've forgotten. the 'camera' still clicks so it must be 'on' at the EENET. wishful thinking: just hoping to still see a glimpse from there. :peek:
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I would like to share a Lesser Spotted Eagle video, uploaded by Tibor Sos, Conservation of Aquila pomarina in Romania (http://www.pomarina.ro/EN).
Hope you´ll enjoy it. I´m looking forward to the breeding season 2012 in Estonia. Thank you for 2011, kotkaklubi and LK, südamlik tänu!
Hope you´ll enjoy it. I´m looking forward to the breeding season 2012 in Estonia. Thank you for 2011, kotkaklubi and LK, südamlik tänu!
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That is a nice video, Maertha; thank you for sharing it!maertha wrote:I would like to share a Lesser Spotted Eagle video, uploaded by Tibor Sos, Conservation of Aquila pomarina in Romania (http://www.pomarina.ro/EN).
Hope you´ll enjoy it. I´m looking forward to the breeding season 2012 in Estonia. Thank you for 2011, kotkaklubi and LK, südamlik tänu!
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Thank you maertha, not only for this vid
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You´re welcome!
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Thanks for the wonderful film. It shows what we are missing watching only the nest!
Since I posted the link in the WTE forum, let me post it once again here - for all 2011 Pontu pictures you can take a look here:
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... tos/Tooni/
Since I posted the link in the WTE forum, let me post it once again here - for all 2011 Pontu pictures you can take a look here:
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... tos/Tooni/
“One can measure the greatness and the moral progress of a nation by looking at how it treats its animals” (Mahatma Gandhi)
"You can judge a man's true character by the way he treats his fellow animals" (Paul McCartney)
The Aquila Pomarina Collection
"You can judge a man's true character by the way he treats his fellow animals" (Paul McCartney)
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You have done a lot of work, Felis, thank you for saving this unique documentation! Thanks again also to ame, who saved the WTE breeding season 2009 this way, and to Ohansen, who came up with the idea. He stored the WTE pictures from 2010 at mejuba.
I put all photo collection links which are available in the next posting, so everybody can find them easily.
Edit: Felis sent me the Black Stork and the WTE nest link, see posting below.
All breeding season photos are stored at mejuba and photobucket now.
I put all photo collection links which are available in the next posting, so everybody can find them easily.
Edit: Felis sent me the Black Stork and the WTE nest link, see posting below.
All breeding season photos are stored at mejuba and photobucket now.
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Photo documentation, Black Stork, Lesser Spotted Eagle & White-tailed Eagle. Source: pontu
White-tailed Eagle, breeding season 2009 Upload by ame
http://www.mejuba.com/member/folder/def ... id=5_46940
White-tailed Eagle, breeding season 2010 Upload by Ohansen
http://mejuba.com/member/folder/default ... d=12_23306
White-tailed Eagle nest, 2011Upload by Felis silvestris
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... os/Kotkas/
Lesser Spotted Eagle, breeding season 2011 Upload by Felis silvestris
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... tos/Tooni/
Black Stork, breeding season 2011 Upload by Felis silvestris
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... otos/Kurg/
White-tailed Eagle, breeding season 2009 Upload by ame
http://www.mejuba.com/member/folder/def ... id=5_46940
White-tailed Eagle, breeding season 2010 Upload by Ohansen
http://mejuba.com/member/folder/default ... d=12_23306
White-tailed Eagle nest, 2011Upload by Felis silvestris
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... os/Kotkas/
Lesser Spotted Eagle, breeding season 2011 Upload by Felis silvestris
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... tos/Tooni/
Black Stork, breeding season 2011 Upload by Felis silvestris
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l63 ... otos/Kurg/
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Magnificent work Meartha and all who collected and documented the nests.
Five stars for all.
Five stars for all.
Carmel a member of SHOW .. I hope you love birds too. Its economical. It saves going to heaven.
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Edit: I´m glad about your kind words, macdoum. Even though I think everybody knows it anyway, I would like to point out again that all these admirable up- and downloadwork was done by Ohansen, ame and Felis silvestris.
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I have heard from Urmas - Koit and Eha had a successful breeding season as well. He'll enquire about the gender test of Tormi (and the storklets).
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Thank you for hits news, Felis. I have been wondering if Tormi is male or female.Felis silvestris wrote: I have heard from Urmas - Koit and Eha had a successful breeding season as well. He'll enquire about the gender test of Tormi (and the storklets).
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Finally I managed to upload all pictures I've done to photobucket
You can found them here:
http://s1093.photobucket.com/albums/i43 ... 0pictures/
First choose month and then click on the day you want to see
You can found them here:
http://s1093.photobucket.com/albums/i43 ... 0pictures/
First choose month and then click on the day you want to see
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Wow, what a work! Thank you, Bubo!
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"You can judge a man's true character by the way he treats his fellow animals" (Paul McCartney)
The Aquila Pomarina Collection
"You can judge a man's true character by the way he treats his fellow animals" (Paul McCartney)
The Aquila Pomarina Collection