Latvian Black Storks 2015 - Zīle and Ozols
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Re: Latvian Black Storks 2015 - Zīle and Ozols
it's alive still.
a slanted day.
a slanted day.
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Liz01 wrote:11:00 poops outside the nest. It is not Ozols
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Liz01 wrote:11:00 poops outside the nest. It is not Ozols
these are scientific evidencelianaliesma wrote:
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the arrival video is being processed but i have some pictures already. the stork arrived at 8:37 and landed on the top branch where it stayed for almost 2 min...
... before jumping to the lower parent's branch. i don't know if these pictures will help in identifying it. all are more or less blurred. i took pictures frame by frame and made a gif. let me know if one of them is useful and i'll make a better picture.
from there it walked to the nest.
... before jumping to the lower parent's branch. i don't know if these pictures will help in identifying it. all are more or less blurred. i took pictures frame by frame and made a gif. let me know if one of them is useful and i'll make a better picture.
from there it walked to the nest.
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Ame, many thanks
when I see, how the stork on the branch walking
I'll know who it is
EDIT:for me it's not Ozols
when I see, how the stork on the branch walking
I'll know who it is
EDIT:for me it's not Ozols
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11:54:28 Zile flew away
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11:54 the stork flew away. a gif
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i also made a gif of the stork walking from the parent's branch down to the nest if that is helpful.
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Now the nest is prepared for the next season, whoever did it, it means that the stork couple is planning to return in this nest and that the first to arrive will be the stork who started migration earlier(probably Zile).
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Parent visited the nest. 8:37 - 11:54
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From Māris Strazds:
"I looked a little conversation in the forum. You can put my comment on "travel together".
I fully agree that the relationship between them is much more "humane" than many think, and I'm not saying that this is not possible, however, there is no reason to compare the black stork with white one, as people with chimpanzees. We are the closest relatives to chimpanzees as the black and white storks. Hardly any could judge how we as people will act, studying chimpanzees ... White storks travel together. Black ones do not. The old birds can travel both to the west (over Gibraltar) and the east (across the Bosporus and through Israel) to circumnavigate the Mediterranean Sea, the young birds from the same nest can also choose how to fly. Moreover, traveling alone, the human factor could include anecdotes about the two tourists, who are being attacked by grizzly bear. One begins to scoot, but the other is tieing his bootlace ties. When the first asks- do you think you can outrun a grizzly bear?- the second answers - no, but I can outrun you ...
Flying herd reduces an individual's risk of being eaten, as the statistical probability says that sooner the other will be caught . On the other hand, if all children fly the nest together that increases the likelihood that this nest will have no offspring because they could friendly perish together in one and the same incorrectly chosen place. Imagining that it could have happened before many generations, the majority of the nest offspring who travelled together would have long been eaten and would have left no descendants ... Thhe more chance have those nests where children have a tendency not to chum around each other. If the nest leaves four children and each flies their own time and direcion, then the probability that they all end up equal in trouble, in fact is zero. That's in brief. M. Strazds"
"I looked a little conversation in the forum. You can put my comment on "travel together".
I fully agree that the relationship between them is much more "humane" than many think, and I'm not saying that this is not possible, however, there is no reason to compare the black stork with white one, as people with chimpanzees. We are the closest relatives to chimpanzees as the black and white storks. Hardly any could judge how we as people will act, studying chimpanzees ... White storks travel together. Black ones do not. The old birds can travel both to the west (over Gibraltar) and the east (across the Bosporus and through Israel) to circumnavigate the Mediterranean Sea, the young birds from the same nest can also choose how to fly. Moreover, traveling alone, the human factor could include anecdotes about the two tourists, who are being attacked by grizzly bear. One begins to scoot, but the other is tieing his bootlace ties. When the first asks- do you think you can outrun a grizzly bear?- the second answers - no, but I can outrun you ...
Flying herd reduces an individual's risk of being eaten, as the statistical probability says that sooner the other will be caught . On the other hand, if all children fly the nest together that increases the likelihood that this nest will have no offspring because they could friendly perish together in one and the same incorrectly chosen place. Imagining that it could have happened before many generations, the majority of the nest offspring who travelled together would have long been eaten and would have left no descendants ... Thhe more chance have those nests where children have a tendency not to chum around each other. If the nest leaves four children and each flies their own time and direcion, then the probability that they all end up equal in trouble, in fact is zero. That's in brief. M. Strazds"
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How about the same correctly chosen place?
If they choose Gibraltar(or the South of Spain, where some non-migrating black storks live), it will be better choice. Their move to Lithuania and Poland gives such a chance.
If they choose Gibraltar(or the South of Spain, where some non-migrating black storks live), it will be better choice. Their move to Lithuania and Poland gives such a chance.
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It's instinct. I think it's almost zero possibility that stork from Latvia will choice Gibraltar. Route through Bosphorus is inherent and they can't fly other wayasteria wrote:How about the same correctly chosen place?
If they choose Gibraltar(or the South of Spain, where some non-migrating black storks live), it will be better choice. Their move to Lithuania and Poland gives such a chance.
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I think the "division" is somewhere in Germany. The tagged Bavarian storks, 2 siblings and a single one, were tagged not so far from each other, the siblings chose the route via Spain and Gibraltar, while the single one was even crossing the Mediterranean from Greece, but definitely stayed on the eastern route.
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Black Storks migration routes.Felis silvestris wrote:I think the "division" is somewhere in Germany.
Red Line: Migration Border, Orange Arrow: Western Migration, Yellow Arrow: Eastern Migration
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That's beautiful, that one parent today is returned and prepared the nest. So we can hope for a next season.asteria wrote:Now the nest is prepared for the next season, whoever did it, it means that the stork couple is planning to return in this nest and that the first to arrive will be the stork who started migration earlier(probably Zile).
Edit: Thank you all for the updates and pics and videos from this event.
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Dear all stork fans:)
I have recently registered in this forum to thank you for this exciting journey into storks' growing. This has been the best serial movie I have ever watched:) Every day, even in my job, I was looking at the nest from time to time with great curiosity, pleasure and admiration. Fear as well, at times. This was an important nature lesson. I am very grateful for your pics, videos and comments I could follow to witness this miracle of bird life.
Hope Ziluks, Ziluka and their parents enjoy long happy years wherever they fly.
Thank you and until springtime!
Greetings from Poland,
Agata
I have recently registered in this forum to thank you for this exciting journey into storks' growing. This has been the best serial movie I have ever watched:) Every day, even in my job, I was looking at the nest from time to time with great curiosity, pleasure and admiration. Fear as well, at times. This was an important nature lesson. I am very grateful for your pics, videos and comments I could follow to witness this miracle of bird life.
Hope Ziluks, Ziluka and their parents enjoy long happy years wherever they fly.
Thank you and until springtime!
Greetings from Poland,
Agata
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Hello Agata,
Ziluks and Ziluka right now may stay somewhere in Poland and if you're lucky you can see them.
Ziluks and Ziluka right now may stay somewhere in Poland and if you're lucky you can see them.
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I will wave them goodbye:)